Hard to climb Infamy

Hello All,

First of all I am not the best players, but with one of my accounts I often have the first or second place concerning the amount of damage done to the Unfriends. I had in 20 battles, about 70-75% first and second places. And there are times the other 3 or 4 Friends do less damage than the I do combined or as the other player who takes first place, even the bigger ships.

So, even when I do my utmost best, I am stuck at 900-1300 Infamy and don't seem to get past that with my Shooter.

I don't want to blame the others, but there is some luck involved in getting the right team. I did a test with 2 accounts and one I got easier and faster to a 1000 Infamy with a mk2, whilst the other was stuck at 400-500 Infamy. Same boat, same set-up.

But it is not all down to luck, but a big part is. I don't know the percentages and even if I did, it is out of my control. But I just don't know how I get beyond this ceiling as it looks right now.

I now have a mk4 Shooter with all rares and one epic:
My main weapons:
- Sniper cannon 350 dmg (main weapon)
- Long range mortar 450 dmg (main weapon)

Weapons which I rotate:
- standard mortar 450 dmg
- explosive cannon 450 dmg
- triple torpedo 550 damage

So, what else can I do? The team I get is out of my control, but that is 80% of the battle. I cannot win a battle by myself, but am last what else can I do. My set-up works well for me. I can change boats, but for lets say a Speeder, my cannons and torpedos need to be much stronger if I can do anything useful. A Sniper cannon of 350 damage is hardly going to kill a mk4 Shooter of Defender with an epic double shield.

Any advice would be welcome.

 

Could you send a pic of your set up? Generally once you upgrade your boat you’ll rise probably 700 points or so. Also you have to look how well your weapons work together. Usually shooters only do well with about 2 mortars. Figure out if your gonna be close range or long range. If your long range then don’t worry too much about hit points. If your close range then try to use big shield. Generally big shield is best for any shooter until mk6.

 

show me your profile pic , it show your battle count , and others . since when did you start playing ?

 

You're not doing anything wrong. The problem is you're a M2 fighting M4's because the infamy below 1500 or so is a hideously jacked up mess. Just grind, upgrade, and wait till you get to play real battle bay. A medium-sized M4 should do the trick. Be cautious about letting your infamy get too high before you're ready.

 

Overlevelled ppl is what I hate. I have seen horrible MK6 Shooters at 1000 infamy before, and they just have OP weapons. I have come across many players with legendaries on my mini account at 600 infamy. The best counter to this would be a yellow ship, preferably Speeder. Speeder can dodge many of these attacks, including a sniper if played well. My recommendation for u is to grind with Shooter, try to get the right items for Speeder and then use Speeder. Trust me, if u drop infamy, it's coz u need more practice. After that, BB will become much more fun, specifically after around 2000 infamy. My recommended loadout for u:

BC
EC/BC
Overboost
Nitro
Turbo/Bandages

That is the perfect setup for u, as BC can do great damage at lower levels, and u r a MK2, unless I am mistaken. I recommend checking out really good Speeders on YouTube, such as TheAntiSnipe, Keanne Shatter, Rahul James, HARPO! etc. You will learn from their playstyle and tactics.

Cheers

 

Thanks for your replies. I have been playing on and off for 4 - 5 months. Due to health problems, I had a break of 2 months in between and noday days I often play 10 battles a day in total with my accounts. Sometimes less, sometimes a bit more, but then I have to regret it physically. So, I cannot grind for 50 battles or more a day.

My first battle of today we could have won easily, were it not for a floater (again, 20% floater I do come across at least spread over the week), then there are people who lose on purpose, etc.

I don't get why you are nr 1 in your team, that you don't get a reward. I lose because of others a lot, not saying that i always have 10000 damage, but with the other account I had 70-75% of 20 battles cause the most damage. That must stand for something, or not? But if the others don't work together, then you lose anyway.

Here is my setup

 

I do get why we lose these battles, if I not play my best battle and don't even do a 3000 damage, and all the other are way below that even. Then is it a wonder we lose?

And the battle below that we had a floater, so if he/she did just play the game, we would have won. But still in an other battle, the Fixer try to heal me once and missed terribly. Did not do anything to heal us, whereas he had the right tools. Then at the end he gave up while he/she was the last one standing and run on purpose into the Unfriends, did not fire a shot and that was it. Then i do get I won't go up in Infamy and have a losing streak which I never had before in this magnitude.

 

Replace Bandage with a Shield (guessing mk4 can use Big Shield?). Healing is not dependable at that level and without solid fixing you will get more actual health out of the flat hp bonus, it also helps prevent early deaths.

Equip a 2nd point damage weapon (Id drop a mortar). The Mortars might be great for winning the damage charts, but its the ability to land hits on the target being focusfired that wins games. Standard Cannon would probably be nice aslong as you only have 4 weapon slots, but a better long term plan is Exp Cannon (2nd sniper, Blast, Railgun, or even Flare Gun).

 

Look...in my noob account...i heal more than a mk5 fixer with all tier 2 epics...some people are rally bad at this game...or they just came back from a long rest from the game...ok i quitted the game for 3 months...becoz it was the same...master ll league with mk4 and 3 user back in my days...now is so much different and these smurfs are swarming the warrior league and thus making no fun for verry low lvl players...(and for real i got in 1 mach that was for me/mk2 users only/and i won with wopping 7200 heal...and i had tier 2 uncomon repair bolt and lvl 10 uncommon repulse,it was my happiest moment for mk2 fixer)so basicly they r trying to downgrade/or they suck at their job

 

I am really sorry to say, but ur loadout kinda does suck, no offence. Just ditch the two mortars, pls don't use the standard one. Replace it with either Railgun (as u seem to like staying back, judged purely ur loadout) or BC for close encounters and to deal high damage. Use Big Torp instead of Tri Torp, and maybe try and use a mine instead of the long range mortar if u have a range perk to go with the mine. Scrap your ballpark mortars and if u don't use Fixer scrap ur green items, even if they r of epic rarity.

Recommendation: No joke, but try Speeder. U will drop some infamy at first, but in the long run, nothing is more rewarding.

 

Thanks!

But I tried different set-ups and with the others I am less successul and do less damage. I tried a mine instead of standard mortar, but no luck there.

I am not staying back with my set-up, quite te opposite. I am always the first (if there is no Speeder) to the battle ground and start firing before I see them(every hit counts is my opinion), when I see them I close in and try to hide wherever I can. But so many other players start after one minute after the battle has begun, and if they start sooner go straight to the Unfriends and do not even move out of the way if a mortar is falling. And then there are the people with all the same weapons, so another recipe for a loss. I see people with 4 mortars in Wayward, 4 mines, 4 flare guns or a mk5 with 4 weapons from which 3 are Big Bertas and he is hitting the ceiling in Wayward time and again, but he/she keeps on trying. I saw another mk5 Shooter, 5 weapons, but only using 1! mine, even when the Unfriends closed in, he/she should have used his blast cannon or torpedo, but no, only one mine! This drives me nuts to be honest! So, I get why I lose so many times if people like that are in my team.

So, if I change and do less damage and the rest of the team does the same as they do most of the time, then I am still not going to win more. Because the more damage I do, the more likely it is we win the battle. If the others do sometimes 8x less than me, than I don't need to do less damage, but even more.

But I will take your advice and start leveling up my flare gun or whatever it is called and start using a shield. The standard mortar is not my fixed weapon, I swap it around for others, like standard cannon or torps. And I will give the mk4 Speeder a go. I already started using the mk4 Enforcer more, which I liked. I did often the same amount of damage with just two weapons, than with my Shooter with 4 weapons.

I had more luck with my mk2 than I do with my mk4. Is it because the mk2 was faster and more manoeuvrable? I like to think so. With 200 damage weapons on my mk2 I often did 4000 damage, more than the mk5s in my battle.

So, maybe the Shooter is just too slow for my kind of battling?

 

Use Speeder then.

 

Here changed my set-up a little. But even if I don't play the best battle, then the mk5s do even worse. I totally get why I cannot climb my Infamy. So, even if I play Speeder, with teams like this we are always going to lose.

But even if I did twice as much, than we still would have lost, because I still did 3x more damage than the mk5, who has 1 weapon and hp more.

 

Ok, I get ya. Ummm... what MK are all ur ships. If u wanna consider the long run, use Speeder. If u wanna increase ur infamy right now; use either Selfish Fixer (yup) or use Frost Blaster/Launcher with a Big Torp on Enforcer

 

They are all mk4s. I want to master the Speeder and Enforcer.

But the problem is I get so many teams which under perform big time. I had a Speeder in my team which sailed the map like a slow Defender, did not hit anything and got killed in seconds. Another Speeder mk5 lay still, fired a few shots and moved less than a floating duck. Yesterday I had 4 Speeders 3 games in a row, all got killed within 5 seconds, 2 mk4s had 0 dmg, 1 mk2 had 187 dmg and the mk3 got 729 dmg. I know the Speeder is hard to use, but 4 in a row in only 3 battles? I really don't get that. Are they tankers? In the in-game forums people openly discus how to lower their Infamy and adviced me to do the same, to make my life easier. I don't want it to be easier, I want it to be fair and a great battle. I don't mind losing battles if both teams do their utmost best, but I do mind losing if people just don't care or play with one hand or trying to cheat and lower their Infamy on purpose. That spoils it for the rest of us.

It is a game, I know that all to well. But cheating is just wrong and I have lost so many battles because of floaters and cheaters, that is get up to a point I want to take sabbatical (not a whole year, but a week to cool down )

I wish there would be a pratice map where you can play bots, just to pratice different boats and weapons.

 

I agree with the practice map, and they r infamy tankers. The matchmaking is for ur sake, take it like a man. It's how most games are like. Clash Royale, Clash of Clans, and many others. So, ignore that and have fun!

Speeder; yes main, coz MK5 starts to get really good, and so is MK4. Just try and master it, play around with it
Enfo; not really everybody's boat. U might like it or hate it. Personally, I don't really like it that much, and I prefer Speeder, but ur choice

 

You are right, almost everybody has to deal with these kind of teams. There is a matter of luck, because my test with two accounts gave way different results. But all we can do is try the best we can and hope the other do it too.

Thanks for youre advice!

 

I need to do some quests so I use the Shooter for those, but it is frustrating. Just played two battles (I usually play only two battle in a row, because of severe back problems)

But I do understand 100% why people get frustrated with Battle Bay.

One uses 4 mortar in our team, this battle was in Wayward, so completely useless. But I don't get why I am not in a higher league if I come so often first or second place in a battle and do more than 3 others combined. Time for an individual score!