DevReply Why is the sniper cannon balanced?!?

Why don't you say something similar to the comparison posted by @A55A51N (not made by him)? You can find as much flaws in that analysis as the one I made and you can add as many real battle situations as you like into that analysis too to question it

 

You can say that for sniper Cannon too but they will be in sniper cannon range before being in blast cannon range

 

Yea so I’m not taking anything away from the sniper user. For blast, I’m taking away 18 secs from them to let them move within shooting range, which, with a yellow boat, the time can actually be shorter.

 

Hey your numbers are based off speculation not formulas.

 

Thanks, i made this a few months ago. And yes, this doesn’t take into account every possible variable. No analysis can.
Really the only thing i can think of to add to this (not considering moving boats or accuracy because those are impossible to measure) is perks. Sniper’s performance is boosted by perks much more than blasts. In my comparison, sniper only has 2 perks. If we add 2 more, sniper has 15% more chance of critting, while blast gets ”only” a 16% damage boost. And when you get to t4 epic, sniper’s damage is already bigger, so crits deal even more damage. I don’t have all the necessary stats, so i only did basic epic t1 items.

Also, Bhurt’s cannon range talents give sniper more range than blast, because of its higher base range. Meaning if you do the shot at sniper’s max range, with talents the difference is bigger to blast’s max range and blast gets to its range much later.

And i think that we all can agree that the qualities we can’t analyse (easiness of aiming, countering etc.) all go in favor of sniper.

 

They don’t Deal the same damage. Blast canon out damages it. Only reason Sniper is worth it though is the fact you can shoot off from a further range if needed. Resulting in a more well rounded weapon loadout but of course with the cost of less damage output. “Sniper and Blast Canon DO NOT DEAL THE SAME DAMAGE, get that out of your head” with my current perks & talents available if I switched over to blast Canons, I’d easily double my damage output per match with Blast Canons. But I lack the Canons...
My Lvl 40 Sniper currenty deals 1200 Per Crit which is about 1/3 Shots. When it’s not Crit’ing which is the other 2/3 shots it deals 533 damage.
My Only Blast Canon can Deal 1200 Per Shot but if I equipped my Fire Bonus perks on it, guess what it can deal 1800 Per Shot. How’s that equal damage output?

 

I really want to run your loadout someday. I just wasn’t blessed with enough Blasts yet....but I definitely really do like my loadout. I like that it’s flexible for different situations. However I really do look forward to the day I can just rain down DPS like that. People way over estimate the Sniper Canon. It’s not nearly as lethal as Blast Canons when in the right hands.

 

Dude the Fire Perks I have on my Standard Canon would be insane on a Blast Canon. They give 12% & 9% Bonus Damage if they are on fire. That’s without the additional Bonus damage from the Crew Trainings.

 

Yea I’m definitely saying at Lvl 50. I got lvl 40 on my Sniper pretty easily. I imagine it prolly really hard to get to 50 though.

 

There is actually no speculation involved. The weapons’ stats are a known value, and all accuracies between 0% and 100% are viable. I picked two as an example to show that Blast isn’t nesessarily more reliable: it depends on accuracy.

You don’t have to go with 95% vs 60%. You can pick any two numbers, and you will always arrive at the same result: which is that Blast needs to be around 75% as accurate as Sniper in order to break even (at short range). This is based on the weapons’ known stats, not speculation.

 

Buff base damage.
Nerf crit damage.

 

If you save shots for the right moment, and spend more time aiming, then your accuracy will go up, but your DPS will go down. Which still requires lower accuracy weapons to have higher damage (thus higher DPS) in order to compensate.

 

Oh I thought you only copied it somewhere but didn’t know you made it.

Look, I’m more of taking a neutral stance on this sniper/blast discussion. If the devs have already looked into the data and they think nothing is broken, why are we keep arguing whether the sniper should be nerfed? What we are discussing now is how a single sniper or blast cannon works but in actual gameplay it’s more complex.

Yes sniper is useful and an all-round weapon for both short and long range, but it has its weakness too. On top of its RNG based damage output, you can’t work much around it as you’re basically going to load it with all crit chance perks (since fire perks isn’t as effective with its low base damage) whereas for blast cannon you can use fire perks (if you use flare gun or FB) or you can go all damage perks or even crit chance perks. What I’m saying is, we don’t just bring a single weapon into battle, right? It’s more of building a setup in which the weapons and items have synergy and suit your playstyle.

The global top 20 players, don’t you think they can build almost any weapon that they like? But most of the enfos are using blast cannons because it works better than sniper with their playstyle.