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DevReply Why is the sniper cannon balanced?!?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by kurdish bndo, 1 Apr 2018.

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Should sniper cannon be nerfed ?

  1. No

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    5.9%
  2. No, and stop making threads about it

    59 vote(s)
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  3. Yes

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    23.8%
  4. Yes, but just reduce its range

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  5. No, because I use it and other players don't want it to be nerfed, but it is OP

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  6. I'm a troll and just wanna have fun, you guys go on

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  1. Bradley Thorinsson

    Bradley Thorinsson Well-Known Member

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    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
    I adopted the good ol' "If you can't beat em then join em";)
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    And I also have this one in my inventory
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    So bud...just chilll out
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  2. kurdish bndo

    kurdish bndo Active Member

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    I'm waiting for crit chance perks epic and rare till at least 25% for every sniper and them i will collect sniper ,and i will build an all sniper shooter setup and use it sometimes , just to make more players hate it

    But what this mean ? Answer : even a sniper hater will try to use it bcuz it is so Op
     
  3. Bradley Thorinsson

    Bradley Thorinsson Well-Known Member

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  4. kurdish bndo

    kurdish bndo Active Member

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    But now i don't even have 1 common sniper/perk
    Iam sure that it will take me 1 year at least :confused: ,and at that time i will leave the game
     
  5. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Haha that's what MVPs are for!

    (In b4 grammar proofreading requests)
     
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  6. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    U know what pains me the most, its when a high level sniper crits while I am on fire. It just pisses me off.
     
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  7. Bradley Thorinsson

    Bradley Thorinsson Well-Known Member

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    Its a 'SNIPER'
    its supposed to be like:
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  8. kurdish bndo

    kurdish bndo Active Member

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    Lol you can not read only what you want to read , it means it is easy to hit so no reason to make it a critical hit
     
  9. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this is true lol. I dont get why they crit for so much damage either. If they do crit, it should be a small bonus.
     
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  10. Bradley Thorinsson

    Bradley Thorinsson Well-Known Member

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    Theres only one explanation for the crit
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  11. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    Use the uncommon instaed of epic level 10
     
  12. Lil_Torta

    Lil_Torta Active Member

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    Of course. That’s the trade for the garauntee of 1200+ Damage on contact per shot (You Have to Be Closer). I’m easily outdamaged by players who are capable of using Blast Canons. I don’t understand how people don’t realize the Pro’s & Con’s are what balance each weapon.
     
  13. A55A51N

    A55A51N Well-Known Member

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    Sniper
    Pros:
    - Very high range
    - Very high projectile speed
    = Very high accuracy
    - Almost no need to lead a shot, even at 40+ range, so little skill needed
    Cons:
    - You may lose some matches because it doesn’t crit, but in the long run, its total damage output is superior to both blast and explo
    - Has smaller curve compared to blast and explo, though railgun has 0.
    - Gonna get a nerf soon (hopefully)

    Explo
    Pros:
    - Consistent, high damage
    - Splash
    - Good curve, so easier to shoot over wawes
    Cons:
    - Short range
    - Slow projectile
    - Hard to land a shot, so much skill needed
    - Higher cooldown

    I’m not even going to start with blast, it’s basically same pros and cons with explo.
    Also, i have never used neither, so i dare to say that i’m not biased.
     
  14. A55A51N

    A55A51N Well-Known Member

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    Yeah and you think it’s in any way relevant because of......? Because everything that matters is the ”ultimate form” with talents and perks, because that is the weapon people use. You don’t use a weapon without training or perks.
    And the difference between sniper and blast’s base stats is just the same what it is when talents are activated.
     
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  15. ViscountSniffit

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    It’s not just inexperienced players that miss. Blast is objectivly harder to hit with, even at point blank range. Even if you’re a good shot, you’ll always be a better shot with Sniper. It’s a faster and more accurate weapon.

    And ‘just get in range’ is easier said than done. Considering all 5 unfriends will tend to focus on the closest target. You’re just as likely to earn yourself the ‘popular’ award, as land a shot.

    Snipers don’t have that problem, they can sit safely out of range, and land shots against ships that don’t even have vision on them, while thier closer teammate takes all the heat. They take all the risk, and you take all the reward.
     
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    Why are you arguing against me... This is what I'm trying to say...
     
  17. A55A51N

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    I thought that you tried to say that because the ratio of the stats stays about the same (range, speed, cd) then it’s not op.
     
  18. SeaNavy

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    Basically, in equation form
    S1*x=S2
    And B1*x=B2
    So S1/B1 = S2/B2
    Where S = Sniper Cannon, B = Blast Cannon, 1 = No Talent, 2 = Talent, and x = The Percentage Increase in Stats

    So they should be evened out throughout
    I wasn't saying this would or wouldn't make it not OP
    I was just saying it wouldn't matter whether you talked about items with no perks or items with perks since the difference would be the same anyways
     
  19. Lil_Torta

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    There are players that I play against and with all the time that get easily 5-10k more damage than me with Blast Canons. They have no issue getting within range of enemies unless they are chasing a speeder that’s too fast for them. Your complaining about the Snipers range and capabilities but you clearly underestimate its trade offs. My standard canon easily does more damage every match but I don’t run double standard canon cause I like to have a well rounded enforcer ship that can shoot from a further range when needed. No the Sniper is not unbalanced. It’s serves a purpose and that weapon does come with legitimate CONs thus balancing it. Stop getting mad because occasionally someone with one Crits you from across the map. Also the Sniper doesnt land shots easily from 40-45 range unless the target is sitting still or come straight towards the Sniper Canon. Shots still need the be Lead with aiming. I miss shots all the time to Targets moving up and down (due to waves) and side to side (usually enforcers). It’s not as easy to land 45 distance shots as you say it is or even think. Do you even run a Sniper? Is your point of view coming from any experience of using the weapon at all? Or are these simply cries of frustration cause of your own losses?

    If the Sniper was imbalanced I’d run 3 of em. But I don’t. I run 1 just for the flexibility of being useful in a long range engagement. My other two weapons are FlareGun and Canon. These 3 weapons have great synergy with each other and won me many games. If I had enough Blast Cannons I’d run FlareGun and double Blast Canon cause I’d win a lot more games by simply doubleing my own DPS every game. But I haven’t received that many Blast Canons so I’m stuck with my current loadout.
     
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  20. TheAntiSnipe

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    In case of blast, it WILL. Snipe without the crit chance/damage talents still has a 200% crit. Blast without damage talents is a husk of what it can do at it's full potential.
     
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