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DevReply I think matchmaking is ok.

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Bobbafed99, 13 Aug 2017.

  1. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    It's okay if u don't read this but I would say I missed ur pt about people who reach close to 4k infamy and then complain about matchmaking and I completely agree with u that they r whiners.
    But u missed a lot of my pts too and just assumed 4k infamy for every nightmare league player.
    There r orpheus porthos yellow ocean who r 4500-4700 infamy so the max they will meet is 3500+ player who in my opinion can compete with them as they have good equipments and skill.
    And secondly u already agreed with me there as u said I need better equipment to survive and that r bought with gold and rewards from the match highly depends on the dmg u do so better infamy generally leads to better rewards(as I can do more dmg as at better infamy the ships have more hp) so I will get better items and better ship faster.
    And i believe u didn't read my post quite well too there otherwise except ur one pt about whieners I answered ur query about long match matchmaking and people quitting this game.
    PS: And this matchmaking affects lower leagues too as it creates downward spiral it's not always infamy tanker in lower leagues otherwise u wouldn't see so much Mk4 ships with good weapons below 800 infamy
    And people at lower infamy r leaving game and few new people r joining because in last month I haven't seen the increase in downloads of the game on playstore.
     
  2. Tripple Moon

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    I have not read past the half of first page so bare with me....

    You guys say hopefully enough players will rise enough to fill the gap in the upper leagues right?
    But how can any player rise fast enough to be in his own deserved league when his rating is depended on 9 other players?
    1 higher tier player on the opposing team can ruin your chances of rising, same goes for an AFK team mate.

    So i strongly disagree with "matchmaking is ok"...

    PS: Maybe, MAYBE, if the matchmaking would be done according to the average characteristics of the ships, like DPS health and defense taking the player's bonuses into the equation, it could be better...
     
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  3. Miika

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    Because good players can carry more battles, and therefore win more and raise up. You can't carry every single battle, but more than a bad player, and that is enough for you to raise.
     
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  4. H.R.H AOTF

    H.R.H AOTF Member

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    Matching is ok is it? Then explain this mk 6 at 550 infamy please
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    Level 40 captain. Tire 2 and 3 rare and epic weapons and a tire 4 turbo. This guy is playing against mk 3s who are lucky if they have tire 2 rare never mind epic. You honestly just don't get how many seal clubbers there are in this game ( seal clubber. A high powered player who deliberately drops points to kill weaker players) they grind for the first day of the season to get a good position in the league so they don't drop a league then lose at much infamy as they can. Then it's easy gold and achievements for the next 10 days. They still get there league bonus so more gold and pearls means even better weapons for them to dominate the lower league players. Hope I've managed to put to put in to perspective how matching is sooooo not ok
     

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  5. Bobbafed99

    Bobbafed99 Active Member

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    That don't have anything about matchmaking?
    That's just people who screw up the gaming experience for others.
    - Matchmaking can't do much about those players... (Posted a few other matchmaking combinations in previous comments for viewing matchmaking from other perspectives)

    That is the same with "smurfs" in Counter-Strike.
    The matchmaking can't spot a "smurf".
    Pro's who starts a new account and ruin the game experience for new players with their insainly high skills and experience, just so they can have fun. (Same goes for battle bay, but in the seal-club way)

    As Joeyaa said earlier in the post:
    " Matchmaking is ok. But banning needs to be enforced way more than it is right now. I see the same players tanking their infamy every single day."

    The problem is not matchmaking, the problem is the players.
    Solution, banning or give them a warning :// :)
     
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  6. H.R.H AOTF

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    It's everything to do with matching or did you just not get the point. Because of the point system or infamy it's easy to take advantage of low LVL players. If they matched you on your ships power then that would be ok. But as you yourself say people take advantage of the system lots of people. I'm only an mk 3 with LVL 2 rare weapons on 800 infamy and yet everyday I have to fight at least 3 mk 5s with LVL 3 rare and epic weapons. Hell yesterday I got one shot killed off one of them. All anyone talks about in chat is seal clubbers and unfair matching and you sit there saying it's ok. Do you actually play the game or are you just some guy who sits there thinking they know what there talking about. I've been a gamer now for 32 years and any game that dose matching by points and not power is going to got exploited by high LVL players. Ok you stay in your dream world and I'll attempt to play the game with all its unfair matching then when all the op players kill off all the noobs to the point they just uninstall it and give it a bad review then what happens. No more updates cos there no money coming in and there working on the next instalment of angry birds. Will that make you happy with the matching system?

    Oh I also like to add that I report seal clubbers on my team to so don't think I'm crying cos I lost a game or two
     
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  7. Tripple Moon

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    Some people are too egoistic to even hear any good arguments.
    Thumbs-up to you, from a fellow gamer for over 40yrs ;)
     
  8. Bobbafed99

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    MmmmHmm.. I get you. Well said too, I'll give you that :)
    I don't play blow 3700 infamy, so I don't feel and get the same experince as you do. I mostly/only experince the matchmaking at higher levels/infamy.

    The thing I mean about this over-all "peeerfect" matchmaking, is that out of all the problems that there could be in matchmaking, this system of matchmaking fixes the most of them.
    (Don't get me wrong, I'm not an expert, admin or have any kind of status. It's just a wild thought. Btw i do my best explaining myself even when english isn't my commen language)

    Solution could be, when the system who makes and cooks up a match, it places more emphasis/weight and care even more about levels. So these high-level players aren't allowed in the matchmaking system to battle such low players...?
     
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  9. Tripple Moon

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    Nope they need to calculate based on ship strength inclusive talent bonuses.
    Otherwise free and unlucky players will be penalized for it.

    Ps: Never a need to apologize that a language isn't your "mother to tongue" aka main/common language, most on Internet (me included) write in english because it's the international language on internet. ;)
    Let those who only speak one language think about their abilities instead if they complain about it. ;)
     
  10. Bobbafed99

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    - Just fixed/edited a bit in my previous text, heh.
    Yup, that could be an idea, but a much more advance system. Hopefully it will come, so it help players who aren't that high.
     
  11. disorder

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    Here another screenshot...
    Indabrain mk1 my 2nd account (f2p) , Mk6 in my team...
    I M probably too much high for my lvl, far better than the other, but shit it makes a difference ....and new player can do nothing... Except leave this game
     

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  12. Tripple Moon

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    Sidenote About language:
    The game makers aren't even native English-speaking, otherwise they would use "Allies | Opponents" instead of the non-English "Friends | Unfriends" :D
     
  13. CheekyDevilGod

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    It was stated in a previous update that people who tank infamy will still be matched up with people close to their max infamy, Also, if they fall lower than 800 of their all time best infamy, they start losing rewards and soon they get even 0 rewards.

    That mk6 and those mk5s, I believe are either accounts of other high level players who don't care about rewards and stuff and just want to bully lower level players OR they are simply 5 year old wallet warriors or people with lame skills who recently joined the game and have never reached a reasonably high infamy ever.

    Doesn't change the fact that it's wrong for them to be at the infamy they are at and that they are making the game unplayable for other new players.
     
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    Careful not to underestimate Scandinavians English proefficiency :)
     
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    You might realize this is a play on words, and not meant to be grammatically sound. We a ton of native English speakers in our midst as well, not to worry :)
     
  16. Tripple Moon

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    This is what happens when players are forced down the fame pit :D
    I liked it so much i made it my siggy :p
     

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  17. mannyfreshmf

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    does anyone still say that there's no manipulation on the match making?
     
  18. H.R.H AOTF

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    Bro it's so broken I've uninstalled the game as it's no fun now
     
  19. TheFixer27

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    Oh well, Punishment time!! https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/community-and-you-fair-play-battle.17289/unread
     
  20. Flint

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    When after reaching 700 Infamy or thereabouts with my mk1 and mk2 I got teamed up with mk4 and mk5 too many times and they could hit me onces or twive and I was dead. That is the problem, that people are teamed up with people who are 3 or 4 mks ahead. I was often the only mk1 in these battles and later the same happened with my mk2.

    So, there came a losing streak, because I was just not strong enough. My health was 1100-1200, my weapons did 145-250 damage. This is a problem which all people face when climbing Infamy with a mk1 or mk2 (or indeed any mk boat).

    When I told about my frustraties on the in game forums, almost all adviced me to drop my Infamy. So, then I would be matched up with mk1 and mk2s again and my live would become a lot easier. As stubborn as I am (and I don't like cheating, because that is what it is), I couldn't do that. But still this is so common, that people just advice others to do so. Some float, others play like they are blind or eat crisp and play with one hand, others fit common weapons which 50 damage, etc.

    And it happens higher up as well, where people say I keep my Infamy at an artificial level, so I can cope.

    So, this is a problem caused by matchmaking, because you get teamed up with people which are sooo much stronger and so much ahead in terms of mk and weapons.

    But still, I don't think it is fair then to just lower your Infamy on purpose.
     

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