Frost Idea

Uh, I'm not sure if I've talked about frost already or not but I have an idea lol. So the frost nerf, let's think about that for a second. Why was frost nerfed? The answer is pretty simple, it was overpowered. Right now it's agreed by the majority to be heavily underpowered.

I propose we should buff it, but in a different direction. Frost is (or "was") mostly used for offensive purposes, making your targets easy to hit and making them take more damage from specific items. Instead of increasing its offensive capability, how about we give it some supportive capability?

The incendiary meta is extremely prevalent and frost is nearly nonexistent. The most logical thing I can think of is to allow frost to be as weak as it currently is in terms of offense but let players remove burns from their teammates with it (without slowing them). The % slow should directly translate to % burn duration removal, and for frost launchers this should become smaller further away from the center. Perhaps burn removal perks could be implemented?

If anyone has ideas about adjusting its offensive use, not this thread please. It's not that I disagree, I just want to keep the topic clear: frost would make a great support item against the rising fire meta.

Do you think this could revive frost?

 

No. Because frost is mainly used by speeders or enforcers. They are not gonna see if anyone is on fire lets remove fire they are busy distracting opponents this change will push speeder further back defensively.
There is just one solution to frost make it as it was, those nerfs were not well thought out. Devs just listened to community and implemented changes which is absurd.
Another solution might be give frost resistance to frost like it will not break for 5 sec. 1 shot break doesn't work on any combo in 5v5.

 

No that wouldn't really work m8

 

This idea is mainly for the more supportive players (which I do not see enough of nowadays, everyone plays offense). Fixers could potentially use a blaster and enforcers could protect a lot of burn damage from their team by using frost launchers, as well as cc the enemy.

And yes, I agree with you, the offense needs a buff, mostly due to inaccessibility, but again...

There are plenty other threads about bringing frost back to how it was. I don't want this thread to fall into that category.

But I will say thank you for the feedback. You're definitely right that not many people will use this new feature. If I recall @Miku Da Yo 39 pointed out shooters having 12 total points while the rest have only 11. If fixers could use a 2pt yellow item perhaps this would be a lot more useful. Some say it sounds OP but a fixer with a tesla shield is very immobile and the same can be said about the frost launcher.

 

Lol no explanation on your reasoning?

 

Miku's ideas are generally pathetic tbh don't take them seriously.
And making making frost a fixer item is really bad you need to keep moving a sitting duck fixer is dead in 5 sec.
And frost blaster was a supportive item before it received buff( which was not needed). I can show you countless battles where I did just 1.2k 1.5k damage got 3 stars.
I don't really have any solutions rn but I thing I am certain of the moment 1 shot break is removed frost will regain its status.

 

Make frost like flare gun. Dealing damage over time.
Freezing the enemy I'll ask Bunta

 

Well this new idea definitely wouldn't hurt frost any more as it only adds to the items' usefulness. I'd much prefer to do what you're saying, but after this long I simply doubt it's going to happen. Don't get me wrong, I'm posting in threads about making frost more like its old self as well. I just like thinking up alternatives. Let's see how others feel about this before completely dismissing it.

 

Yeah just hit on a idea.
Add talents that reduces speed, turret agility and weapon damage. ( 1shot break should be removed first).
And these talents against duration and slow rate of ships.
So those who want to play supportive role they will pick different talents like weapon damage debuff, turret debuff, heal debuff. ( No stacks are allowed if you get hit by 1 next frost item used immediately will be nullified).
Those who wants to play offensive they will choose duration and slowness increase aka frost torp users.

 

Actually, that's a cool idea. I've always wanted frost to do more than just slow. I'll add that idea to the poll since it totally qualifies as support usage.

 

I totally betrayed my own idea xD still curious about its reception tho

 

More turret speed.. I don't want enforcers more deadly nd speeders too

 

The meta in BB has always been about doing as much damage as you can. It’s the weapons that can dish out lots of reliable damage constantly (cannons), and fire, since it buffs cannons. Fixers are only relevant sine they can do a lot of healing. No speeder or enforcer would sacrifice a slot for helping their team with frost, they need all their yellows to do effective damage. Fixers also need that yellow slot for ob, nitro or tb, since they are primary targets and need something to escape.

So i’m sorry, but the only way to bring back frost is to cancel the one-hit removal. Frost’s absurd power was the only complaint, and that would have been fixed with the talent nerf alone.

 

Seeing some good discussion so far. Definitely leaning towards offensive capabilities being the most important, or at least ways to give your enemies a hard time.

 

I propose the following solution, Frost gives 2 effects,
1 slow the ship, the short disappears when the projectile hits the first time.
2 frostbite, does not disappear when the projectiles hit the end of time, frostbite does not slow the ship, but gives a bonus to damage for torpedoes and mortar!

 

Lol wow, great idea! I definitely didn't just read the same post from you in another thread!