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Tired of this ridiculous hopeless guild rivalry matchmaking

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Reorge, 14 Mar 2018.

  1. Reorge

    Reorge Well-Known Member

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    So I guess everyone knows how the new guild rivalry matchmaking system is putting guilds with lvl35-40s against the guilds with lvl46-50s and constantly ruining the fun. So called revamped matchmaking, it's the worst update on this part ever. Let's forget bout the lop-sidedness for a moment, even the guilds are not similarly active. But wouldn't it be a great idea to change matchmaking to be based on captain levels instead of global rank or activity ? I lead a guild, we have like 10-12 members over lvl40 and we are constantly being matched up against the beast guilds which has every players over lvl41 and many lvl50s.
    So this is the result of our last guild rivalry below IMG_20180314_213336.jpg
    And this is our current rivalry below, and guess what's funnier:D . We are matched up against the same guild which won the first place last time with 68 quests although our highest score until now is only 60( that too only if we work extremely hard). So explain how in the world is this a fair matchmaking ? IMG_20180314_213401.jpg My guild is very important to me and is the main reason why I'm so active in this game, but this new sickening system is killing all the fun and making me give up already. After coming this far please don't make me/us regret, please do something bout it ASAP
     
  2. KillaBeez710

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    Weren’t u in VIP or Global chat at the start of that first rivalry saying how u guys were beating up the higher ranked guilds lol
     
  3. Reorge

    Reorge Well-Known Member

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    Me ? Lol nah I never said that, also I don't have VIP
     
  4. Rango8

    Rango8 Well-Known Member

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    You’re only two quests away from 3rd place. Just gotta grind a little harder.
     
  5. Reorge

    Reorge Well-Known Member

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    Wow seriously, since when did people start to grind for 3rd place ? That too when ended up in 5th place just last week
     
  6. Rango8

    Rango8 Well-Known Member

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    Take a season off and save boosts and then go ham the next season. That’s what we do. One season off won’t kill yah if you’re getting 5th place anyway
     
  7. Reorge

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    How easy it is to say that, I have seen many guilds doing that and failing even after it. That's not how it works
     
  8. CaffeinatedChris

    CaffeinatedChris MVP

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    With the rework to guild quests I actually find that despite having lower placement in the rivalry we're still earning more tokens overall. My guild can reliably clear four boards now where previously we could only count on three, and even a Fixer main like myself can still do "chip damage" to quests where I don't have the ship or gear necessary (which gets me yet more tokens.)

    Tl;dr don't sweat your rivalry rank as much, you're probably still ahead in raffle tokens ;)
     
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  9. Reorge

    Reorge Well-Known Member

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    That might not be important for you, but we, i guess most of us likes to compete (in a fair matchmaking ofc). I run a guild and only a guild leader will understand the pain of losing a rivalry because of broken matchmaking
     
  10. Reorge

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    Also the healing getting counted in dmg quests is probably a bug I believe.
     
  11. KillaBeez710

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    Someone from ur guild for sure did tho. Somebody from my guild told me & that definitely doesn’t help lol
     
  12. Rango8

    Rango8 Well-Known Member

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    It does work because that’s what my guild does, but If you just wanna be a negative Nancy and not try all your options then fair enough. Can’t win em all. But you can win some.
     
  13. Reorge

    Reorge Well-Known Member

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    No it doesn't, go make a thread bout it see what people say. I have seen the "captain stabbin'" guild completed 36 quests and still they met guilds that completed 58,59,60 quests. I have seen few other guilds too
     
  14. _devill

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    Tl;dr
    Tired of this ridiculous hopeless guild rivalry matchmaking?
    Go for infamy. Get those top league rewards for some time.

    Matchmaking thread count: Four billion +3
     
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  15. Kitterini

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    @Reorge Food for thought; Whats the average position to be expected in a 6team competition?
    Ill offer a hint, ''its not 1" ;)

    We finished 6th in our last two rivalries, yet you dont see us moaning about it.
     
  16. A55A51N

    A55A51N Well-Known Member

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    The matchmaking update was desperately needed at higher levels, where the guild pool isn’t that big. You were constantly matched against guilds that had hundreds of 5x boosts that ended up doing 10-20 quests more than you (and we did over 50 so). Now i’m in a lower guild, but i think it’s more fun to compete against 5 trying guilds than 5 afk guilds. We are often 2nd or 3rd now after the update.
     
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  17. Reorge

    Reorge Well-Known Member

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    No need to compare yourself with someone else, I don't know bout your guild status and you don't know bout mine. We are competitors, sorry we don't like to keep losing because of system's fault. Beat us in a fair matchmaking and I'll quietly gladly accept it.
     
  18. Kitterini

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    The challenge is that you define a fair matchmaking as one where guilds like your own is likely to win. I can fully understand why, & in particular why it sucks to have the rules change from something that benefits your type of guild into something that doesnt.

    To me the main difference is that every guild gets chances to win now, unlike the old system where rivalries were pretty much decided from the start (talking top 15 guilds here). I like having agency rather than being a spectator.
     
  19. Reorge

    Reorge Well-Known Member

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    Height of assumptions lol. No need to make stories. Never said the old matchmaking was better but this one is definitely the worst. You don't know the pain most of the guilds are going through now, I'm not asking to bring back the old matchmaking but to make it based on captain level instead, which should be fair for everyone. Yell all you want but Nobody can deny the fact that this matchmaking system is totally broken
     
  20. Help I Cant Swim

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    Captain level matchmaking?? This is the first time I've seen this suggested for rivalries or regular matchmaking. That is probably for a reason... because it is not a good way to matchmake. lol

    I can deny the fact that this matchmaking system is totally broken. See? I did it.

    I do agree that one or two more improvements to rivalry matchmaking is required before it is perfect, but this new one is better than the old one. My guild is a Top 100, mostly F2P or light spending guild. We used to get crushed every week by the same 2-3 big spending guilds, while we crushed the same guilds below us. This new matchmaking has us fighting guilds above and below us in infamy, but all about able to complete the same amount of quests.

    If they combined these two systems, I think that would create a nice balance.
     
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