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Speeder vs enforcer

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Warchin3, 1 Mar 2018.

  1. Warchin3

    Warchin3 Member

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    dear devs and players

    Can speeder win 1v1 against enforcers after new update ( Mk6 VS mk6 ) enfos r now OP with two tesla shield and 3 weapons+ they move so fast ,..impossible to win against them after ec and tesla bolt buff....., iam really disappointed with this now...., devs plz reduce EC cooldown 14.4 to 12.8 and tesla bolt 20 sec to 16 sec , this will be atleast good balanced
     
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  2. noobkiller

    noobkiller New Member

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    And how about increase ship and turret agility by 5% or 10%....i guess this little change won't make it OP...
     
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  3. Help I Cant Swim

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    Buff, not nerf. Agreed. Speeder is pretty useless now, especially at mk5.
     
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  4. Asigossi

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    I will agree that a nerf to Tesla and EC was warranted, but I think they went a little extreme.
    Almost a 40% increase on cool down for EC and almost 100% increase on Tesla cool down is a little overboard.
     
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  5. Cozytrendsetter

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    Devs have player stats and they know pretty well which weapon needs nerf and which doesnt.In my opinion except defenders all other ships are balanced right now.
     
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  6. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    I am surprised @Kitterini hasn't posted snapshots not meta of this season usually he used to do it every season there has been a lot of changes in meta and steep decline in use of tesla bolt and speeders and rise in use of shooters and Enforcer.
    A snapshot would be welcome kitterini
     
  7. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    What ship do you play? In the 2.5k-3.5k infamy range, Speeders (specifically mk5) are probably the worst ship right now.
     
  8. Cozytrendsetter

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    Enforcer.Look if devs feel this change was too much they may revert it.Obviously they did it for some reason
     
  9. Help I Cant Swim

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    I think any nerf/buff greater than about 5% is too much. Instead of delicately shaping the items into balance, they are trying to hammer them into submission.
     
  10. Asigossi

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    Thanks, tips...
    We all know the nerf needed to happen, it was just too extreme.
     
  11. Cozytrendsetter

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    Agree with you.Small nerfs or buffs are better.With upcoming sniper nerf(whatever that will be) i am sure speeders will rise again.
     
  12. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    Devs feel both trip torp and frost have been nerfed to the ground but they haven't done anything about those two
     
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  13. Babablacksheep

    Babablacksheep Well-Known Member

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    I think the buff was to help them stand as a equally used boat with speeders. But the unexpected and undemanded nerf of speeder made them even weak.

    And this change Enforcer didn't buff up F2P enforcers since it breaks Rare tesla shields break on impact with any good burst dealing T5 weapons. However it makes p2w boat ridiculously strong which can utilize 1 extra slot with great efficiency
     
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  14. Cozytrendsetter

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    I think they did buff tri torps,grenade, carronade (rarely used weapons) in one update.Frost turn will also come.
    Speeder is still a pretty good ship.Enforcers were crap for long.Let them enjoy having the upper hand vs speeders for some time.
     
  15. Cozytrendsetter

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    P2W speeders are also the reason for frost nerf,tesla nerf.With ridiculous stun times etc they were difficult to beat.They need to do something about this as the f2p suffers in the end.
     
  16. Babablacksheep

    Babablacksheep Well-Known Member

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    Yes indeed, i myself have created enfo buff threads(see my profile). Enfo is specifically a boat before buff which was whale favorite before buff too, the buff made them more significant

    So like you said, in no way i think enfo is overpowered except P2W which is a very minor group..
     
  17. Help I Cant Swim

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    F2P will always have a difficult time competing with P2P players.... any nerf to Enforcer will hurt F2P players more than P2P players. Nerfing is almost never the answer.

    I would feel so bad for F2P players that used Enforcer for months before they were good. And put a ton of time and resources into leveling their Tesla Shields.
     
  18. Babablacksheep

    Babablacksheep Well-Known Member

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    Trust me i have been up for enfo buff since the day i joined forums, nothing makes me more happy then to see enfos all around gaining popularity :D
     
  19. _devill

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    Couldn't agree more. I run a mk5 and am barely able to 1v1 a shooter let alone an enfo. :(
     
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  20. Warchin3

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    They are OP ....!! Time to nerf enfo in next update
     

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