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Frost Launcher + Mortar Enforcer is still very dangerous

Discussion in 'Strategy Discussion' started by Help I Cant Swim, 9 Feb 2018.

  1. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    I've seen about a dozen of these Frost + Mortar Enforcers over the last few days. Unless your team is super aggressive or full of speeders (sometimes doesn't help), this is a very difficult combo to overcome. Went against a fleeted pair of these guys and they absolutely melted our team in place. They coordinated their launches to go constantly back and forth between frost and mortar so we had several shooters/defenders that were stuck with no hope.

    Obviously, this only works on a few maps. If they get Wayward Pains, they might as well just soak up damage.

    The best counter to this is a couple of super aggressive mk5-6 speeders or enforcers that can get close and take these guys out. The unfortunate part of this is that you are getting very close to the enemy team and can get taken out by the other teammates plus you usually don't realize their setup until they've done massive damage to your team.

    Just a heads up to some people that might want to try a new combo or might be having a hard time overcoming this one.
     
  2. nosesabe

    nosesabe Well-Known Member

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    I tried this combo just for fun and it’s really interesting and fun to use
     
  3. Help I Cant Swim

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    It is very dangerous. An MK6 Enforcer with 2x Ballparks + Frost Launcher + Tesla Shield and then some sort of Cannon/Carronade for close range will absolutely wreck a team of shooters/defenders.
     
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    Thank you for telling me a good setup. Rewarded with a like
     
  5. HELLRAZOR

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    1520672236780.png A good set up for me on my mk 5 speeder.
     
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  6. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    Woah that's strange. I'd love to see a video.
     
  7. WarCream

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    That meta Was dead a long time ago. Sadly:/
     
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  8. YerJokinArnYer

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    I’d say the meta is dead for frost torps, but I too have seen (or should the be cursed at the sight of) some good frost mortar players. The margins of error are less for a mortar than a torp, so even if someone releases the frost, the chance is that the mortar is in the air and you can’t get out of the circle unless you have nitro.
    If you have two fleeting players running that combo it would be tough to counter.
     
  9. WarCream

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    Talking about mortar frost it was a meta before .. like a long time ago
     
  10. YerJokinArnYer

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    I agree it’s not meta, but frost mortar is still a viable alternative setup in my opinion, based upon what I’ve seen in the game and what I’ve read on this forum. I am in Ace 1.
    I hope it continues to grow in popularity too, as we need greater diversity.
     
  11. Help I Cant Swim

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    I am not saying that it is the meta. It is definitely not a great late-game setup. But I've seen it used very effectively in the mid-game.
     
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    Risky using a mortar
     
  13. Earel

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    Mb frost mortara works in pre nightmare league.
    I’ll try run this setup also.
    For nightmare it’s weak, reasons:
    - Too many speeder with nitro, easy dodge
    - all speeders use direct damage, in close fight u are dead.
    - defender has too much hp... 15k... u can beet him
    - fixer can easy dodge and heal
    - enforcers run double ts ... too many mortar shots blocked

    So, if u run this setup u need hard cover and mine field.
     
  14. CoolDownHSNA

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    So... odds on me using it? I was always against cancer, but just this once, I will use it, mainly because of the great job you did on persuading me. You deserve a LIKE!
     
  15. CoolDownHSNA

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    Wait up... no offence, but how is this meant to work? I can,t think about a Speeder staying back and just shooting, that's the job of a Shooter. However, you are an experienced player, being a MK5, so I wanna see how u play. I really don't know how this works in close range tho, which is the speciality of the Speeder. Triple Torpedo is great on a torpedo, but I really think u should change ur mortar into something else
     
  16. HELLRAZOR

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    Not really, frost launcher freezes a group of ships, then launch a long range mortar (mostly for distraction) & nitro up close to ships, circling them & launch my Legendary triple torps & usually kill 2 at once.
     
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  17. Help I Cant Swim

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    I'm currently using Ballpark/Standard Mortars for guild quests. Let me just say that this play style is underused but very effective in the 3.5k infamy area.
     
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  18. TheAntiSnipe

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    Oh it's definately very effective. I make any froster enfo/speeder a priority target just below a fixer in my rating.

    My objection is that this weapon has made me think about this: it's like the game WANTS you to play long range. I like playing long range, but right now I simply don't have the weapons...
     
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    Sniper.... :D:D
     
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    GET THAT OUTTA HERE!

    IT'S A CHRISTIAN THREAD!
    *Hallelujah and bible thumping intensifies*
     
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